Clarification on EVO-ALL for 2010 Lexus IS 250 push to start: OEM key fob inactive while car is running...

Question

Hello,

I recently purchased a remote starter for my vehicle before learning about your product.  Let me tell you the problem I am having with my current starter and then ask you to clarify the features of the EVO-ALL so that I can decide if your unit is better suited for my car.

I have a 2010 Lexus IS 250 with push to start.  The car is set up so that when it is running, the OEM remote can no longer operate the lock/unlock feature for the doors.  I had an avital (model 4113) remote starter installed by a professional and he is telling me that I have to a.) start the car with the remote starter remote (not oem remote) and b.) once I start the car with the remote starter, I then have to actually turn the car off to unlock the car and restart it again to drive.  He said the only way around this is to use an optional feature that would enable the new remote to unlock the doors but he can't program the OEM remote to do either.  This is annoying and not at all what I wanted for two reasons: 1. the oem key fob is already pretty bulky and I do not want to have to carry and use two different remotes (key fobs) and 2. It's annoying and probably bad for the car to start and stop and start the car just so I can get into it and drive.

So I decided to do a little research and I came across your product which sounds like exactly what I was looking for in the first place but I have some questions I need answered to clarify the features of the EVO-ALL for my car set up as follows:

1. Am I able to install tihs myself?  I live in Southern NJ and there doesn't seem to be any installers in this area and from the sounds of it, your unit uses wire harness plugs made for my vehicle, right?  I'm pretty handy and believe I can do it if I have the proper instructions and there is no soldering involved.

2. Will I be able to use the factory OEM key fob to start/stop the car and to get in and out of the car?  From what I understand on your website, this is the case unless I want to improve upon the range.

3. Does your unit bypass the OEM security to allow the OEM remote to unlock/lock the doors while the car is running?  This is the kicker so I'm trying to be very specific so that you understand... as it stands now, my OEM remote will not unlock/lock the doors if the car is running. Does you unit bypass this?  

-Thank you so much.  I really appreciate your time and I hope to hear from you soon.

Answer 1

Hi Michael,

 

Let me clarify one thing. In general, if by factory you cannot unlock your doors with the OEM fob while the vehicle is running, an additional aftermarket remote would be required. Additionally,  we do not support Stand Alone Remote Starter (3x Lock) on the 2010 IS250. The EVO-ALL needs to be able to detect the lock and unlock signals from the vehicles Can-Bus in order for the 3xLock feature to work.

1. Am I able to install tihs myself?  I live in Southern NJ and there doesn't seem to be any installers in this area and from the sounds of it, your unit uses wire harness plugs made for my vehicle, right?  I'm pretty handy and believe I can do it if I have the proper instructions and there is no soldering involved.

• Am i able to install a heat exchanger in my house? yes most probably. Would i do it? yeah right, there would be leaks everywhere. The complete installation of a remote starter and EVO-ALL can be found here. I cannot say if you can or cannot do it, we always recommend professionals. Also, the installation would be pretty much the same using any unit on the market since the remote starter would need to always wired the same way.
• Our units do not use plugs that go directly to the vehicle for Lexus. Wiring is required.

2. Will I be able to use the factory OEM key fob to start/stop the car and to get in and out of the car?  From what I understand on your website, this is the case unless I want to improve upon the range.

• The EVO-ALL does not support 3xLock for this car. Some remote starters though have a feature/optional wiring, that can be programmed so that when wired accordingly, hitting 3xLock would activate the remote starter. I don't recommend this since your factory remote does not work while the vehicle is running.

3. Does your unit bypass the OEM security to allow the OEM remote to unlock/lock the doors while the car is running?  This is the kicker so I'm trying to be very specific so that you understand... as it stands now, my OEM remote will not unlock/lock the doors if the car is running. Does you unit bypass this?

• We do not control how the factory remotes operate, no aftermarket modules do that. Nothing would change and the factory remote would still not work while the vehicle is running. Our INT-SL+ controls door locks on this car but something needs to tell it to lock/unlock the doors.

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All in all, a remote starter is required for this car along with a bypass unit for the vehicles passive anti-theft system.

 

A full installation with EVO-ALL + INT-SL+ and a remote starter would look like this :

EVO-ALL & INT-SL+ & Lexus IS250 / IS350 (2009-2013) - Revision 20140117

• Using the INT-SL+ to control door locks prevents the installer to have to wire the remote starter to the vehicles door lock wires that are located in the driver door.

If not using an INT-SL+ to control door locks the installation would change a bit and wiring would look something this :

 

EVO-ALL & Lexus IS250 / IS350 (2008-2012) - with key take over - Revision 20110610

• Door locks are not that in that installation plan but need to be wired from the remote starter to their appropriate wires which are located in the driver door.